Beta Versions / Undue notifications

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Re: Beta Versions / Undue notifications

Post by scheff » Sat Sep 07, 2019 9:14 am

SUMo considers the latest release of wireshark as outdated
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SUMo assessment of latest wireshark release as outdated
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. It has been released on 17 July 2019 in version 3.0.3. The publishers announce a development version 3.1.0 available since 25 July 2019
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publishers overview of available wireshark versions and their state
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. But since when since when does SUMo consider a development version as released instead of published beta?

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Re: Beta Versions / Undue notifications

Post by scheff » Sat Sep 07, 2019 9:36 am

While the current implementation for Microsoft Windows operating system version detection is flawed and doesn't make sense to fix until implementation of hierarchical product reporting in SUMo, this has the side effect of random setting of user flag on SUMo server. This is already known.

But where does SUMo detect a version 12.0.18362.1 of Windows 10 (64 bit)?
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SUMos assessment of Windows 10 64 bit versions
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Has SUMo already implemented a time travelling machine, known so far only of science fictions stories?
And why does this time travelling maching of SUMo work only for the 64 bit edition and not for the 32 bit sub-system of Windows 10 64 bit?

I've installed Windows 10 1903 with latest updates. Next updates to be expexted by the evening CEST of 10 September 2019. The version should remain with something of 10.0.18362.X. I don't expect the (minor) functional update of Windows 10 autumn 2019 not before mid or end October 2019 to Windows 10 1909 to change of beta to released.
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SUMo servers overview of Windows 10 64 bit versions detected on SUMo user devices
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Re: Beta Versions / Undue notifications

Post by Kyle_Katarn » Sat Sep 07, 2019 11:05 am

That's why it's currently NOT recommended to enable support os MS product in SUMo (see settings)

I'd suggest to turn this off on your machine for the time being.

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Re: Beta Versions / Undue notifications

Post by scheff » Sat Sep 07, 2019 10:27 pm

Kyle_Katarn wrote:
Sat Sep 07, 2019 11:05 am
That's why it's currently NOT recommended to enable support os MS product in SUMo (see settings)
What do you mean by that's? Do you refer to the user flag or to the time machine aspect?
Kyle_Katarn wrote:
Sat Sep 07, 2019 11:05 am
That's why it's currently NOT recommended to enable support os MS product in SUMo (see settings)

I'd suggest to turn this off on your machine for the time being.
I like SUMo and that SUMo improves. And I like science fiction and time machines. So why should I turn this feature off?

I didn't mention yet that the SUMo time machine only works for the 64 bit part of Windows 10, not the 32 bit part of Windows 10 64 bit.

I can live with the implication on the user flag until my much desired feature of hierarchical reporting gets implemented. So it's up to you to decide on that priority. And you've already done so. The reason I'm reporting here is more the time machine aspect and why it doesn't behave differently for 32 bit components compared to 64 bit components (in my 64 bit edition of Windows 10). It seems to me that the implementation for the 32 bit components is correct while there seems to be a small error for the 64 bit components. I further suspect that this assumed implementation error appears in the context of product consolidation which you call rationalization. This observation has nothing to do with the user flag setting.

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Re: Beta Versions / Undue notifications

Post by Kyle_Katarn » Sun Sep 08, 2019 11:09 am

Ok, much clearer :-)

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Re: Beta Versions / Undue notifications

Post by scheff » Mon Oct 21, 2019 11:39 am

SUMo reports the tool WinRAR in version 5.71 as outdated with available update to version 5.80.3.0. But on the publishers website, version there exists only a published version 5.80 beta 3, no released version 5.80. So please mark it as beta.

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Re: Beta Versions / Undue notifications

Post by Kyle_Katarn » Thu Oct 24, 2019 7:00 pm

scheff wrote:
Mon Oct 21, 2019 11:39 am
SUMo reports the tool WinRAR in version 5.71 as outdated with available update to version 5.80.3.0. But on the publishers website, version there exists only a published version 5.80 beta 3, no released version 5.80. So please mark it as beta.
Fixed, thanks !

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Re: Beta Versions / Undue notifications

Post by BlueCrayon » Thu Oct 31, 2019 11:09 pm

VideoReDo TVSuite 6.60.4.808 is a beta https://www.kcsoftwares.com/sumo/view.p ... nc.&prot=2

VideoReDo TVSuite 6.60.4.806 is the current version https://www.videoredo.com/en/Download.htm

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MSI Afterburner 4.6.2.15745 is a beta https://www.kcsoftwares.com/sumo/view.p ... der&prot=2

MSI Afterburner 4.6.1.15561 is the current version https://www.msi.com/page/afterburner

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Re: Beta Versions / Undue notifications

Post by Kyle_Katarn » Fri Nov 01, 2019 12:20 pm

BlueCrayon wrote:
Thu Oct 31, 2019 11:09 pm
VideoReDo TVSuite 6.60.4.808 is a beta https://www.kcsoftwares.com/sumo/view.p ... nc.&prot=2

VideoReDo TVSuite 6.60.4.806 is the current version https://www.videoredo.com/en/Download.htm

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MSI Afterburner 4.6.2.15745 is a beta https://www.kcsoftwares.com/sumo/view.p ... der&prot=2

MSI Afterburner 4.6.1.15561 is the current version https://www.msi.com/page/afterburner
Both fixed, thanks !

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Re: Beta Versions / Undue notifications

Post by ap1978 » Fri Nov 01, 2019 7:42 pm

Total Commander 9.50 Beta 3 not registered as latest version (9.5.0.0).

https://www.ghisler.com/whatsnew.htm

Latest stable version (9.22a) listed as update (9.22.1)

https://www.ghisler.com/whatsnew.htm#922a

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